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John Gove
St Louis Blues
Location: NY
Joined: 09.11.2017

Sep 20 @ 10:18 AM ET
John Gove: Ducks Shutout in Preseason Opener
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Sep 20 @ 10:30 AM ET
John nothing to see here - Guys not used to playing together- some missed assignments on the D end - too much thinking and not enough of just playing - lets see what tonight brings - I will say this if they call slashing like that in the regular season - the PP's will skyrocket -
Eman87654
Anaheim Ducks
Location: CA
Joined: 12.06.2015

Sep 20 @ 11:53 AM ET
I'm glad they are cracking down on Slashing. Slashing was starting to become a way to retaliate. I mean if you really got a beef then drop the gloves and fight. And no I don't wanna see goons stagging fights. But every team needs a couple of players who can throw down to protect smaller players from getting hammered. The best example was the Edmonton series last year. Having maroon, lucic, kasisian, nurse on there team really kept us honest. I mean we poked and harassed mcbaby but in the end he still played his game.
IGotTheMemo
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Orange County
Joined: 04.29.2016

Sep 20 @ 12:42 PM ET
I listened to the broadcast, and it sounded like there was a botched defensive change and the Sharks were able to capitalize for the first goal. Was it the likes of the now infamous massive botching by the Flames in Game 1 of the 2017 Western Conference Quarterfinals? I don't know. I didn't see it. Although, it probably looked something like that. That's what happens when you make mistakes, you get punished. Being a former internationally ranked Hearthstone player *nonchalantly sips coffee*, I know a thing or two about punishing mistakes.

Anyways, good on Gove to bring up penalties. For Anaheim, under Boudreau, the penalty problem was so egregious, you don't even know where to start. The only thing I can compare that amount of stupidity to would be a Facebook "news" feed. The amount of idiocy I witnessed under Boudreau's mismanagement was that bad. Last year, they did get their act somewhat together; for a time. However, I do think the slashing penalty emphasis won't bode well. Kesler's basically a lumberjack, slashing calves left and right. If an indie developer wants to make an Android game, kind of whack-a-mole meets Ryan Kesler meets temple run meets fruit ninja. Except you need to slash peoples calves for some reason. Oh here you go, It's temple run, but instead of w/e was chasing you in that game it's zombies, and you have to slash calves of the other uninfected to slow them down so you can get away. Kind of like if you were in the ocean and a great white shark was getting ready to attack, and you pulled an old lady's foot to ensure you go to shore faster and put some prey between you and the shark. So yea, any devs that want to develop that into a game, feel free, but back to my original point, the penalties are a huge problem. I don't see Ritchie making it 10 games into the regular season without getting called for a holding penalty while he's skating in on the forecheck. Between that and Perry's a slashers, and once Kesler's back. Perry’s even been known to spear, so there are some bad habits, and bad habits lead to mistakes, and mistakes get punished.

The bane of this group, for the past 3 years has been, they make things more difficult than they have to be. I thought Carlyle made some progress last year with the poor choices this team makes in the heat of the moment, but they need to take another another step forward.
Eman87654
Anaheim Ducks
Location: CA
Joined: 12.06.2015

Sep 20 @ 1:13 PM ET
I listened to the broadcast, and it sounded like there was a botched defensive change and the Sharks were able to capitalize for the first goal. Was it the likes of the now infamous massive botching by the Flames in Game 1 of the 2017 Western Conference Quarterfinals? I don't know. I didn't see it. Although, it probably looked something like that. That's what happens when you make mistakes, you get punished. Being a former internationally ranked Hearthstone player *nonchalantly sips coffee*, I know a thing or two about punishing mistakes.

Anyways, good on Gove to bring up penalties. For Anaheim, under Boudreau, the penalty problem was so egregious, you don't even know where to start. The only thing I can compare that amount of stupidity to would be a Facebook "news" feed. The amount of idiocy I witnessed under Boudreau's mismanagement was that bad. Last year, they did get their act somewhat together; for a time. However, I do think the slashing penalty emphasis won't bode well. Kesler's basically a lumberjack, slashing calves left and right. If an indie developer wants to make an Android game, kind of whack-a-mole meets Ryan Kesler meets temple run meets fruit ninja. Except you need to slash peoples calves for some reason. Oh here you go, It's temple run, but instead of w/e was chasing you in that game it's zombies, and you have to slash calves of the other uninfected to slow them down so you can get away. Kind of like if you were in the ocean and a great white shark was getting ready to attack, and you pulled an old lady's foot to ensure you go to shore faster and put some prey between you and the shark. So yea, any devs that want to develop that into a game, feel free, but back to my original point, the penalties are a huge problem. I don't see Ritchie making it 10 games into the regular season without getting called for a holding penalty while he's skating in on the forecheck. Between that and Perry's a slashers, and once Kesler's back. Perry’s even been known to spear, so there are some bad habits, and bad habits lead to mistakes, and mistakes get punished.

The bane of this group, for the past 3 years has been, they make things more difficult than they have to be. I thought Carlyle made some progress last year with the poor choices this team makes in the heat of the moment, but they need to take another another step forward.

- IGotTheMemo


It's been years since Perry appeared someone. And if Kessler gets called for slashing someone's leg then fine. As long as the other team gets called to. But Ritchie is just a case of inexperience. I think he'll reign in the penalties more over time.
IGotTheMemo
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Orange County
Joined: 04.29.2016

Sep 20 @ 1:30 PM ET
It's been years since Perry appeared someone. And if Kessler gets called for slashing someone's leg then fine. As long as the other team gets called to. But Ritchie is just a case of inexperience. I think he'll reign in the penalties more over time.
- Eman87654


Do you watch much Ducks hockey? There are a few players on this team that regularly use their sticks as a switch. TBH, with all the pansy antics, I don't blame them. However, things are getting out of hand, and it's apparent the league wants to put an end to this practice.

As for Ritchie, I expect after the summer of reflection for his major penalty during an elimination game, he'll be a more focused player. Nevertheless, offensive zone penalties ruin momentum, and Ritchie was called for numerous penalties that didn't have to happen.
yzermaneely
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Poway, CA
Joined: 12.17.2011

Sep 20 @ 4:08 PM ET
I listened to the broadcast, and it sounded like there was a botched defensive change and the Sharks were able to capitalize for the first goal. Was it the likes of the now infamous massive botching by the Flames in Game 1 of the 2017 Western Conference Quarterfinals? I don't know. I didn't see it. Although, it probably looked something like that. That's what happens when you make mistakes, you get punished. Being a former internationally ranked Hearthstone player *nonchalantly sips coffee*, I know a thing or two about punishing mistakes.

Anyways, good on Gove to bring up penalties. For Anaheim, under Boudreau, the penalty problem was so egregious, you don't even know where to start. The only thing I can compare that amount of stupidity to would be a Facebook "news" feed. The amount of idiocy I witnessed under Boudreau's mismanagement was that bad. Last year, they did get their act somewhat together; for a time. However, I do think the slashing penalty emphasis won't bode well. Kesler's basically a lumberjack, slashing calves left and right. If an indie developer wants to make an Android game, kind of whack-a-mole meets Ryan Kesler meets temple run meets fruit ninja. Except you need to slash peoples calves for some reason. Oh here you go, It's temple run, but instead of w/e was chasing you in that game it's zombies, and you have to slash calves of the other uninfected to slow them down so you can get away. Kind of like if you were in the ocean and a great white shark was getting ready to attack, and you pulled an old lady's foot to ensure you go to shore faster and put some prey between you and the shark. So yea, any devs that want to develop that into a game, feel free, but back to my original point, the penalties are a huge problem. I don't see Ritchie making it 10 games into the regular season without getting called for a holding penalty while he's skating in on the forecheck. Between that and Perry's a slashers, and once Kesler's back. Perry’s even been known to spear, so there are some bad habits, and bad habits lead to mistakes, and mistakes get punished.

The bane of this group, for the past 3 years has been, they make things more difficult than they have to be. I thought Carlyle made some progress last year with the poor choices this team makes in the heat of the moment, but they need to take another another step forward.

- IGotTheMemo

Are you under the impression Kesler's tactics are what they are and they just coincidentally walk right up to the line of what the officials allow? I'm under the impression Kesler knows right where the line is, and rarely crosses it. He'll adjust just fine, thank you.
IGotTheMemo
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Orange County
Joined: 04.29.2016

Sep 20 @ 4:48 PM ET
Are you under the impression Kesler's tactics are what they are and they just coincidentally walk right up to the line of what the officials allow? I'm under the impression Kesler knows right where the line is, and rarely crosses it. He'll adjust just fine, thank you.
- yzermaneely


He has crossed the line. Now the lines been moved significantly, and now you're saying, "He'll be just fine."

It could be argued that the slashing penalty revamping is 100% because of Ryan Kesler. The guy has hacking at McDavid's calves like Jon Snow hacked up the Army of the Dead. A relentless onslaught of brutality. Has Brian Hayward mentioned Kesler gets leeway by the refs? Yes. However, there is a renewed emphasis, and like I said, "I don't think it'll bode well."

Did you even listen to the game last night? They talked about that this quite a bit, and while it was noted by Carroll and Wood that it didn't have an impact on last night's game, they said this renewed emphasis on calling slashing penalties has been the chatter around the league.

I'm sure Kesler will manage, but this group already loses games because of their inability to play disciplined hockey, and this rule enforcement isn't advantageous to this group in any way, whatsoever.
Eman87654
Anaheim Ducks
Location: CA
Joined: 12.06.2015

Sep 20 @ 5:06 PM ET
Do you watch much Ducks hockey? There are a few players on this team that regularly use their sticks as a switch. TBH, with all the pansy antics, I don't blame them. However, things are getting out of hand, and it's apparent the league wants to put an end to this practice.

As for Ritchie, I expect after the summer of reflection for his major penalty during an elimination game, he'll be a more focused player. Nevertheless, offensive zone penalties ruin momentum, and Ritchie was called for numerous penalties that didn't have to happen.

- IGotTheMemo


Hey relax. I was just talking about the ones you listed. And yes stick usage is a problem league wide. I believe if every team is called equally on low slashes to the legs it will all even out and no team is going to benefit.
IGotTheMemo
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Orange County
Joined: 04.29.2016

Sep 20 @ 5:38 PM ET
Hey relax. I was just talking about the ones you listed. And yes stick usage is a problem league wide. I believe if every team is called equally on low slashes to the legs it will all even out and no team is going to benefit.
- Eman87654


Kesler and Perry wield a switch, and not a hockey stick, 10% of the time they're on the ice. It's the way they play. They are, realistically, two of the top five offenders that this revised emphasis is attempting to quell. Therefore, the belief that every team will be called equally and everything will even out is a very foolish claim to make.

Let me educate you, in statistics there is data which is comprised on a spectrum. Data on the outskirts of a spectrum is referred to as an outlier. For example, the Anaheim Ducks are a negative outlier on the minor penalties spectrum over the past decade. They have taken the most minor penalties of any team over the past decade. So now, the belief that a renewed emphasis on a rule that’ll have a severe impact on a couple of Anaheim’s players is somehow all going to even out is a very stupid thing to suggest
Kingsfanyme
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Garden Grove, CA
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 20 @ 6:24 PM ET
I'm a hockey fan in general, but I'm a Kings fan first. I'll wait for you all to yell..............we good now? I like the honesty in your post. I would like to add while there are several Ducks that will have issues with the heightened rule change as well as many teams will have similar problems....Kings. At one point or another each of us will feel as if we are being singled out and the other team is not being called for the same penalties. Just like.any rule change there will an adjustment period, over sensitive calls in the beginning, and then the refs and players will find a happy medium in most cases. I look forward to every season and of course playing you guys is always fun and frustrating at the same time.
Eman87654
Anaheim Ducks
Location: CA
Joined: 12.06.2015

Sep 20 @ 8:54 PM ET
Kesler and Perry wield a switch, and not a hockey stick, 10% of the time they're on the ice. It's the way they play. They are, realistically, two of the top five offenders that this revised emphasis is attempting to quell. Therefore, the belief that every team will be called equally and everything will even out is a very foolish claim to make.

Let me educate you, in statistics there is data which is comprised on a spectrum. Data on the outskirts of a spectrum is referred to as an outlier. For example, the Anaheim Ducks are a negative outlier on the minor penalties spectrum over the past decade. They have taken the most minor penalties of any team over the past decade. So now, the belief that a renewed emphasis on a rule that’ll have a severe impact on a couple of Anaheim’s players is somehow all going to even out is a very stupid thing to suggest

- IGotTheMemo


Yeah. The ducks take a lot of penalties. But it would be wrong to think that such rates won't increase for other teams to at a equal rate. If you think that having Kesler and Perry on our team is enough to throw off any statistical rate then I think you wrong. When Refs call games they call an equal but not perfect game. I don't believe most refs have an axe to grind. I think the League tells them to call certain penalties and that's what they do. And looking around at other teams there are more that enough players using there hockey sticks wrong to keep things equal as far as penalties go.